Producer and songwriter Kramer on touring with Butthole Surfers: I am one of the richest men in the world

A great interview in the Believer mag with producer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist Kramer, who talks about different jobs he did, but the best was being a touring musician - "The best years of my life happened over the course of about six months in 1985 while I was on the road with Butthole Surfers... I may die penniless, but thanks in great part to Gibby and Paul, these two Texas gentlemen who named their band Butthole Surfers and still got a major label record deal, I am, at least in terms of life experience, one of the richest men in the world". Kramer's hilarious also: "We looked like Hell had just puked us up and wanted no part of us. We looked exactly like what we were; a poverty-stricken American band with little or no idea of where we’d just been, where we were going, what we were doing, or why. It was all about surviving those twenty-three hours a day leading up to that one hour onstage. Onstage, we were a force to be reckoned with. Offstage, we were masters of nothing. And we looked it".